crystal sync

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Well I've been pretty pleased with the picture
quality I've gotten with an old transfer box.
Yes its not perfect but it works! Luckily since
I'm not footing the bill [img]biggrin.gif[/img] for this one I will
push for getting a decent transfer. How much
does that typically run?

But the problem sounds daunting. I'm going to look into whether any of the camera rental shops have any crystal S8 for rent. The cost of paying for the Film Group mod just isn't worth it for
my uses. I'd rather rent an old Arri and shoot 16mm.

Now El Mariachi was shot without crystal sync
on 16mm using editing to hide the problems, so
it can be done... with extreme patience! [img]eek.gif[/img]

If the director is prepared for ADR or for having
a sync problem. Would it be better to shoot 18
or 24 fps? [img]graemlins/film.gif[/img]

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24, whether to PAL or NTSC.

[Actor]

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Yes, it can. Rodriguez accomplishment shows what can be achieved with blood, sweat, tears, dedication and persistance instead of money. Among the hurdles he faced.
<ul type="square">[*]Not only was his camera not crystal sync but neither was his audio recorder. Meaning that while the camera was running too fast the audio might be running too slow (or vice versa), exacerbating sync problems.[*]His borrowed Arriflex 16S is one of the noisiest MOS (Mit Out Sprecken or With Out Speech) cameras made. To keep the camera noise out of his soundtrack he shot the film silent and then shut off the camera and had his cast repeat the scene for the microphone. The cast had no dailies or video to lip sync to. They simply did it over.[*]The 3/4 inch editing equipment he used was not NLE. To avoid making extra generations of the video he had to edit in order, shot by shot, cut by cut.[*]His equipment would not allow him to stretch or shorten either the video or the audio.[*]When he simply could not sync up the audio he would cut away, leading to some comments about his unique cutting style.[/list]Advances is technology during the 11 years since Rodriguez edited El Mariachi, along with declining prices in equipment, would put you way ahead of him even if you do not have a crystal sync camera.
<ul type="square">[*]You can probably afford a crystal accurate sound recorder of some kind, even if it is nothing more than a VHS camcorder.[*]If you shoot simultaneous video then your cast will have something to lip sync with once the noisy camera is shut off. For that matter a sound super8 camera should not be as noisy as the Arriflex 16S so barneying it enough to record simultaneous sound may be a possibility.[*]Computer NLE programs like Premiere, Final Cut Pro or even iMovie are several leaps ahead of 3/4 inch linear editing.[/list]Rodriguez estimated that it would take him 3 days to sync up his sound. It took him 8 days. In his book he says it took him two weeks but he took 7 days off during that period. My estimate is that it took him 48 hours to sync up 4.5 hours of audio.

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This might interest you.All the footage was shot with a non-crystal sync camera with the dialog being spoken into a recorder( very much like Rodroguez did). I believe Premiere was used for the final edit and mix.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/k-3/files/15.mov

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/k-3/files/clip05.mov

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/k-3/files/clip06.mov